Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by coffe2mug 657 days ago
Wondering... why this happens only in Google (Alphabet)? Don't the employees have the duty to accept employment contracts? Why and how MS or Oracle or Amazon never have these problems?
1 comments

It’s their company culture and Google’s heavy toleration of radical political speech in the workplace. This can make Google a very toxic place to work at.

When I was at Google I saw an email that went out to a large number of employees calling all us vets murderers. The employee who sent it was not fired. Those other companies you listed would bring that person up to hr, and likely start an investigation with some percentages of offenders fired.

Being against military contracts isn't really politically radical except I guess in the US.

But being called a murderer is a pretty predictable outcome of joining an organization built for and dedicated to killing. I'm sorry if you didn't understand that before joining and/or that your feelings were hurt.

Conflating killing and murder is an exceedingly naive understanding. It's one of those "babby's first philosophy"

And ultimately it's also one of those facially similar things actually smart people choose to conflate because it's rhetorically useful.

I dont know which one you are but congrats you got me.

You'll notice I'm not making the claim that they are the same, just that being called a murderer is a predictable outcome of joining the US military. It may be a naive belief but so is the expectation that your coworkers will be righteously fired for expressing it.
"Just doing their job" isn't really a great reason to do anything. The term "veteran" treats "Country and honor" folks the same as "Duty" folks. And that's what the law gets to be, but if murder isn't one thing, then neither is any fact of military service.

If they didn't use the economically desperate and every aux member to sanitize their image, more people would be willing to call at least infantry participants, if not "Veterans" by other names.

See the google search summary below. The discussion of US vets being murderers and additional creation of a hostile workplace environment for US vets, is likely categorized as a violation of federal law. Google could be sued.

>Two federal laws prohibit discrimination in employment based on your status as a service member or veteran: The Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act (USERRA) prohibits civilian employers from discriminating against you based on your present, past, and future military service.