[reducesuffering]

> advocating for health and fitness to fix the root issue.

Do you know any GP's / doctors? They'll all tell you that's the first line they repeatedly recommend to their patients. It barely works, because mostly that has to come from intrinsic motivation. And then they proceed to the "well if they won't eat healthier and exercise, what else is going to do something for them..."

[sowut]

"we have no mainstream leaders with mainstream policies advocating for health and fitness to fix the root issue"

[consteval]

Not true, virtually all mainstream people, i.e. celebrities, are incredibly fit.

I mean, J Lo has a six pack and has for decades. Nobody cares though.

The obese celebrities are the odd ones out, and they're typically ridiculed and hated beyond belief. This idea that the obesity epidemic can be fixed with bootstraps is just not one based in reality.

[sowut]

that's the second time i've said "mainstream leaders" with "mainstream policies." what i'm saying has nothing to do with celebrities

[consteval]

If you want mainstream politicians to address obesity, that means taking aim at the food industry and the healthcare industry. Not every day people - because that doesn't work and never has.

We've done it before, with the Tabacco industry, but food is different. Food is a unique kind of addiction because you can't stop it completely. Also lots of people are fundamentally anti-regulation, so.