[arminiusreturns]

Sorry I don't check HN very often these days.

What I mean is by watching the IPs, I see a lot of cross-border ingress/egress when it shouldn't be necessary. It's not proof, but an indicator of probability to me, that echelon style mechanisms are being used.

If you are unaware of echelon and related programs, essentially, since it's illegal for the US (officially at least) to spy on it's own citizens without a warrant, instead they let an "ally" country like the UK spy on Americans and then "share the data", essentially another abuse of third party doctrine.

I hope that helps clarify.