[topspin]

> Don't dumb it down

Where was that demanded?

> It is exceedingly easy to filter the output of said tools.

This is provably false. Consider the content of Linux file systems. There is no one tool to simultaneously observe conventional POSIX properties, ACLs, capability attributes, selinux properties, AppArmor references, etc., to which you might apply a filter. So you have to repeatedly create your own, half-baked, inefficient, throw-away correlation tools on the fly in what little time you can spare.

Why? These features didn't appear last week. Most are older than a lot of people coping with this stuff. I answer that question here[1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41288842

[kantapproves]

“this results in programs like df. or mount.”

This implies both tools need to adjust to reality - aka systemd bs - to make it easier for the user. Also known as dumbing down. I concede it is not explicitly requested, but it’s not that much of a reach TBH.

It is provably true that the output of df and mount is exceedingly easy to filter. You don’t even need tools to do it.

I don’t care about AppArmor and other BS because I am not on Linux. Those weren’t part of the discussion anyway. It is about mount and df and the author explicitly called them out for failure to be “easy”.