[dzonga]

I think you're leaving something out.

- the affinity for 'traditional' java guys to make code seem so complicated and be wrapped in so many layers.

the JVM is an excellent platform bar none. But if you work on a java codebase with the traditional guys - I feel sorry for you. there has to be so many "best practices" - Impl, Factory, Wrapper what what . what was supposed to be a simple endpoint - then a simple function for business logic is now wrapped in 5 or so classes.

then you add the magic of "Spring" and productivity & everything else slows down to molasses.

End of day if you're working on web services or internet stuff - you take in JSON, transform JSON, spit out JSON. That's been my experience. & that's not complicated to do. maybe other people can differ.