[bww]

I’ve also recently switched (largely) from Vim to Zed and I also think that Zed is in many ways great.

At the same time it’s been pretty frustrating to use an editor that is spending so much time building AI integrations, REPLs, and so fourth when basic things like cut and paste and common Vim motions still have so many bugs.

I’d love to see them prioritize getting the basics solid first.

[jph00]

Yeah I feel the same way. The fact that Zed uses the system clipboard as the default register in vim mode, for instance, made it impossible to use in practice for me -- having every yank replace my clipboard was a bit of a nightmare!

[jack_pp]

And then there's me that configs vim to use the system clipboard by default

[metaltyphoon]

Same. I can’t stand not having A clipboard for the entire OS

[Jenk]

The `+` register is the system clipboard in vim already. What you're referring to is remapping the `+` register as the default register (in place of the 'unnamed' register, which is accessed explicitly as the `"` register) for some operations - typically yank and paste.

[metaltyphoon]

Yes :)

[Aeolun]

I don’t know. That feels perfectly reasonable for what I imagine is 99% of all developers, so while sad, I can imagine why that use case is not very high on their list of priorities.

[lelanthran]

> That feels perfectly reasonable for what I imagine is 99% of all developers, so while sad, I can imagine why that use case is not very high on their list of priorities.

I think you might be under the impression that what the GP is complaining about is having the default copy and paste go to the system clipboard.

This is not what is happening; in Vim all modifications are saved to the default register. Making the default register the system clipboard is annoying, because the following happens:

Insert a newline? Newline replaces whatever is in the clipboard.

Switch around two letters in a typo with `xp`? That text replaces the contents of the system clipboard.

Remove a word? Change a word? Add a new word? All replace the contents of the system clipboard.

Run a macro that changes things around? Nukes the system clipboard.

I don't think that 99% of developers want this behaviour. What they want is that when they explicitly copy something, it must be reflected in the system clipboard.

[Aeolun]

I assume all of these are some special combination of keys/modifiers? While I agree it’s less than ideal, at least you always know it’s going to happen if you are sort of familiar with Vim.

[lelanthran]

> I assume all of these are some special combination of keys/modifiers?

It's rare, in Vim, to not use commands. It is, after all, a command-oriented interface.

Any command that removes text or modifies text places the removed text into the default register.

> While I agree it’s less than ideal, at least you always know it’s going to happen if you are sort of familiar with Vim.

The problem with making the default register nuke the system clipboard is that almost all text editing commands are going to nuke the system clipboard.

[owenpalmer]

You can have multiple things saved on your clipboard at once.

[ubercore]

There is a setting for that.

[cedws]

To be frank I don’t the majority of us care about these collaboration features. We just want a way to write code that is performant but makes it easy to leverage existing language servers.

I want to pay for Zed for what it is. I want to sponsor a new code editor. I have zero interest in paying for a SaaS collaborative editor.