[alx_the_new_guy]

You can download one of the dozens of OSM-editing apps like: - streetcomplete - vespucci - everydoor and either add that information yourself or leave a note for other people

[dmd]

If I had the information I wouldn’t be looking it up.

[palata]

I guess the point of the parent is that if more people were contributing information, then you would get it from OSM.

[failbuffer]

For relatively static info, sure. For real time bus/rail status you need integrations to countless public transit systems. For stuff like store times, etc, you need sufficient market power so that business owners are incentived to provide that info.

[palata]

> business owners are incentived to provide that info.

Business owners usually provide it on their door. I added opening hours to many places, and importantly I didn't have to add opening hours to many other because they already had them.

> For real time bus/rail status you need integrations to countless public transit systems.

For public transportation, I personally usually need to buy a ticket, which Google Maps doesn't provide. So I use the public transportation app of the country in question. For countries where public transportation are public, which usually implies an app, of course. Countries that have broken public transportation won't work the same, but anyway the public transportation is broken there :-).

[zaik]

I added/updated hundreds of opening hours to OSM. A few people updating the opening hours to the shops they go to is already worth a lot.

[dmd]

And did you update it again a few days later when they changed their opening hours?

Google - a real person - calls every week to update.

[zaik]

Maybe this is a cultural difference, but in my city opening hours are pretty stable. Sometimes they're even engraved in the store sign. There are exceptions though.

[sam_lowry_]

OrganicMaps lets you also add points and attributes to OSM.

[Aachen]

I seem to remember they have a history of incorrect tags or tag combinations being applied by their software though. Not sure what the current state is but may be something to look into before using OrganicMaps as a mapping application when there's other good options

[zikduruqe]

And you can import gpx files into it also.

[carlosjobim]

Why should he/she labour for free for the shop owners?

[lolc]

I sure wish shop owners updated their hours. But in the end OSM is better if I do it, and others do it. It's called collaboration.

[jwalton]

How do you think google maps got such a good database of these things? When I last used it, Google maps used to actively ask you for this sort of information.

[lolc]

And the tragic thing is that Google the monopolist rides on people's helpful inclinations then turns around and sells their contributions.

I actively avoid contributing to that corp. Not even marking spam. Let them drown in the fruits of their own incentives.

[carlosjobim]

The shop owners also put their hours onto Google Maps, or paid somebody to do it. You shouldn't labour for free for Google either.

Even if you managed to help a shop get hundreds or thousands of new customers by updating their online information, they wouldn't even give you a cup of coffee if you asked. More likely they'd spit in your face.

For most physical businesses that are open to the public, correct information on map services are by far their most important advertising. Yet, they neglect this and spend thousands on billboards, social media, radio spots, etc. If they are failing as business owners, that's their own problem.

[e_y_]

I think they even robocall stores with something similar to Assistant to check if they're open on holidays, which is definitely something that would be difficult for a smaller or community-run database to accomplish at scale