[ah27182]

What an incredible mask-off moment. The war mongering coming from this man is insane, I still don’t get why these people even bother to say they “care about democracy” when it’s clearly a lie.

He says China is “lost” or whatever, simply because the West has been unable to control the country in the same way they have done with Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc.

I hate these people that justify barbarism and imperialism as a means to a “greater good.” It has “white man’s burden” written all over it.

[akfanta]

Western democracy is treated like a religion these days. You either adopt it or die. Seeing people claiming China should be destroyed because it's a totalitarian country is amusing to me, it reminds me of the christian crusades. In reality, most Chinese don't give a crap about democracy as long as economy is flourishing.

[seydor]

That's a moral argument. In the west we believe liberal values are the best , and we want them around the world. As such, authoritarianism is a priori an enemy

[ah27182]

So destabilizing and destroying a country for the sake of establishing liberal values is a morally righteous decision?

[skrebbel]

There's exactly one country (Japan) where establishing a liberal democracy at gunpoint worked out. The US then tried to do the same in like a quarter of the world and kept failing. At some point some people up there ought to get the message right? I don't know how else to do it but war simply isn't it.

[seydor]

being "an enemy" doesn't imply that we attack them

[skrebbel]

You called China an enemy in response to Schmidt being called a war mongerer. I read that as a defense of Schmidt stance and implicit support for war with China. If I got that wrong then I agree my comment is out of context.