[timcobb]

What is more popular than the Apache Foundation? I thought Apache was top... Is there a cooler/better Apache? If so, please let me know.

And when was Apache more popular? I thought it was the uncool place where stuff was written in Java, that became popular because people's conception of Java (and the language/ecosystem itself) changed.

[Someone]

Apache is both popular and “the place where projects go to die”. They have many, many projects that see limited development activity and aren’t well-known (how many projects in https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?name do you even vaguely know of what they’re about?)

I also think the popularity of the Apache license is part of what makes Apache popular.

> I thought it was the uncool place where stuff was written in Java

They have lots of projects running on the JVM, but “written in Java” isn’t a requirement, nor is “running on the JVM”. See https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?language

[cmrdporcupine]

EDIT: wrote something stupid here before my morning coffee

[pquerna]

This is an Eclipse foundation project, not an Apache Software Foundation (ASF) project?

it's all volunteers/open source, but this isn't an ASF project.

[cmrdporcupine]

I'm sorry, I hadn't finished my coffee yet.

I'm gonna go embarrasingly delete this thread tail between my legs...

[mcpherrinm]

I think CNCF is home to most of the big projects I’ve been contributing to or using lately.

[mikeyouse]

CNCF is a project of the Linux Foundation - which has become absolutely massive: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/projects

[timcobb]

Ah yes, thank you! But would you say they more about infra/platform while Apache is more about application?