[MangoCoffee]

"If Netscape doesn’t like Microsoft’s bundled IE with Windows, they should just take their app off the Windows OS.

All these companies moaning about Microsoft yet aren’t doing the one thing they have the power to do which is just leave.

If they refuse to leave, then they’re admitting that Microsoft’s platform is providing value to them and they should pay what Microsoft wants."

The irony is striking: Microsoft (Windows/IE) is often criticized for being a monopoly, while Apple, a behemoth with a trillion-dollar valuation and unlimited resources, is paradoxically seen as a humble, independent studio despite its questionable business practices on HN.

[adesanmi]

Again: you can literally go on Patreon.com on your iPhone right now and subscribe to any creator you want without paying Apple’s fees. The mobile web is literally a suitable alternative and competitor right now, but for some reason people on HN have given up on this concept and think every website needs an app. Patreon should just leave the App Store and invest in their already great multi platform website with no gatekeeping of distribution.

[mrkramer]

>Again: you can literally go on Patreon.com on your iPhone right now and subscribe to any creator you want without paying Apple’s fees.

I'm glad that walled gardens like Apple and their App Store teach people how valuable is the Open Web.

[adesanmi]

Same here: the default option is not to put your website on the App Store, I’m sorry but it isn’t. It’s 2024 and there have been so many advancements in web technology, I’m tired of people arguing that the web isn’t even an option for the vast majority of websites out there.

I get that some apps need the computing power and unique APIs that you can only get via building a native app, but Patreon should not be an app. And the crazy thing is they already have a great website that works really well on mobile. What do you need the App Store for?! Just leave Apple to their practices that you disagree with and focus on yourself, making the best possible product for your users that is distributed via the open web.

[MangoCoffee]

I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall.

[adesanmi]

No, you just don’t have an argument. Patreon has a perfectly working mobile application called Patreon.com that doesn’t have any gatekeepers. It’s fully mobile, responsive, and allows me to do everything I want to do right now.

If the article they wrote had said “We’re leaving the App Store because we don’t agree with Apple’s fees” then people who want to support creators will continue to use their excellent mobile site.

Apple’s App Store is NOT the only distribution platform that exists for iPhones, so please stop pretending that it is. The web is a thing.

[scblock]

Patreon is a web site. It shouldn't even have an app.

[adesanmi]

Thank you! And not just any website, a good mobile website, too.