[nojvek]

Comma is phenomenal at highway driving. Better than Tesla.

They should keep on doing what they're doing. Make ~$1000 gadget that makes driving less of a chore. Doubtful they'll get to driverless in next 10 years.

There can be many players in the market at different offerings and price points. Comma is a sweet spot where they are handsomely profitable, don't need to raise another round and get incrementally better.

Waymo has unlimited money from Google. Cruise, Zoox, e.t.c will have to face reckoning at some point.

It was smart of Uber to get out of self-driving car billion dollar money burning pit. They can always enter the race again. They have market size advantage.

[hakfoo]

I can't fathom how "makes driving less of a chore" can work from a regulatory standpoint.

For me, that's the end-all-be-all of self driving promises. It doesn't matter whether they call it level 3, 4, 5, or 420, what the branding and promo copy says, it matters how it gets handled from a legal standpoint.

Unless you can get the vendor to accept liability, you're either hands-on-the-wheel driving, or sitting there tensing and waiting for the "you must jump back to hands-on-the-wheel driving in the next 3 seconds or we plow into the side of a lorry" alarm.

In a way, this is the same heuristic as "the company that offers a long warranty can't make crap." No company will willingly put themselves on the hook from the estate of pedestrians and other drivers until they know they've solved it to a statistically high level.

[andrewmcwatters]

Better than Tesla is not a high bar. Openpilot regularly slams on the brakes.

[SkyPuncher]

I was deeply unimpressed with Tesla’s highway driving when I test drove one. I found both Ford and Hyundai/Kia to be at or above the level of the Tesla.

Frankly, I didn’t see any benefit of Tesla over most of the lane centering and adaptive cruise solutions in the market. It felt so unpredictable that I preferred to simply drive by hand.