[cameldrv]

Yeah. Have you seen Waymo? Even with 12.5, you have to keep your eyes on the road, and at least once or twice a week, it’s going to do something that would likely cause an accident. If it does, Tesla will blame you for not paying attention.

In a Waymo, you sit in the back seat and scroll your phone and it gets you safely to your destination every time. These are not even remotely comparable products.

[aantix]

They're not remotely comparable problem sets.

Tesla's generalized driving algorithm vs Waymo's cherry-picked routes and ideal weather.

Tesla is winning. And the gap is getting wider.

[fsociety]

I would bet more in a company who figured out the last 20% in a specific city than a company stuck on the first 80% generally.

[SR2Z]

Waymo does not have cherry picked routes - it has a defined ODD inside which is ANY route can be driven fully unsupervised.

This necessarily involves some kind of generalized driving algorithm but more usefully, it gives you a clear goal and distribution to measure against.

[aantix]

The defined ODD is essentially cherry-picking the routes.

[SR2Z]

Sure, if the powerset of all roads in a major city is "cherry-picking" to you. The rest of us just call that driving.

[acchow]

Waymo works perfectly fine in the rain. No driver.