[JohnMakin]

I think that comments like this with emoticons are vague in intention and difficult to reply to especially given parent context - but basically, I think because I am thinking. No proof exists within the LLM flavor of AI products that they do any form of thinking as we understand it, because we haven’t even defined what thinking is. Charlatans tend to use vague definitions to advance whatever agenda they have, and when a subject is already poorly understood, it is prone to wild, unsubstantiated (and prone to misinterpretation) claims.

Whatever you want to make of AI’s emergent abilities or whatever dumb AI meaningless buzzwords are the trend right now, you have to first prove to me you know how I think before I will accept your claim AI knows how to and as far as I’m aware that’s still an open question.

Hope that explains my viewpoint.

[knodi123]

> are vague in intention

Just poking fun at a flaw in your reasoning. You think you are thinking because of your subjective experience. However, you say that something else cannot be thinking, despite the fact that you cannot share its subjective experience- therefore ChatGPT could say the same thing about you.

[JohnMakin]

This is turning into the type of pedantic argument I find exhausting on here and gets into complex philosophy theories of mind, but basically, I believe the flaw in your reasoning is that you are assuming ChatGPT has a subjective experience. To me that's absurd to the point of comedy and I haven't seen any evidence of it, but I'm completely uninterested in debating that.

[knodi123]

> the flaw in your reasoning is that you are assuming ChatGPT has a subjective experience

No I'm not.

I don't think ChatGPT thinks either. But I can express that claim without making untestable, unscientific, circular claims.

Your explanations of why it can't be conscious have all boiled down to "because it isn't [synonym for conscious]". But you are conscious "because you do [thing synonymous with consciousness]".

I'm not trying to attack you as a person, just poking fun at this all-too-common style of reasoning. I apologize if I offended you by doing that.

[JohnMakin]

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Therefore_I_Am:_The_Tale_of...

Only old heads will know this but this is a Star wars old canon short story from a collection of short stories that explores the topic of what consciousness and thoughts mean and in the context of a malevolent AI.

“I think, therefore I am.”

However, “think” is a bit ouroboric in definition and the reason this is an interesting question.