[EcommerceFlow]

He obviously hasn't. The tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so and blow out the competition. One factor not discussed often is how much smoother FSD is compared to all other self driving. Especially noticeable when going from FSD to the free AutoSteer or GM Supercruise.

[kibwen]

> The tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so

FSD has been set to come out in a year or so since 2014. At this point nobody should be foolish enough to give Tesla the benefit of the doubt; if they have a self-driving car, then they'll take legal liability for its actions, and if they won't take legal liability for its actions, they don't have a self-driving car. This is as true for any company as it is for Tesla, although Tesla is the only one who's seen fit to lie about it for a decade.

[aantix]

12.5.1.3 is pretty incredible. Their innovation in this space is accelerating rapidly.

I encourage you to watch some of the videos on Twitter.

It's here. It's now.

[Glant]

Just watched the first video that shows up on YouTube when searching "12.5.1.3" and it starts with a small compilation of the driver having to take back control before the car hits things.

https://youtu.be/TLUdxdS8bcM

[JumpCrisscross]

> tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so and blow out the competition

12.5.1.3 is incredible. But it's still Level 3, attempting to do something stupid at least on every trip I've been in one.

I think Tesla will figure out Level 4 in the near future. What makes the "year or so" unrealistic is it will have to convince regulators that it's safe. For a variety of reasons, partly legitimate and partly due to Musk's antics, that might be difficult in a lot of the most lucrative markets (and markets where Teslas are).

Top comment's estimate for 2030 parity with Waymo et al is more realistic.

[curated4ever]

Correction: Tesla is Level 2. Not Level 3.

[glaucon]

>The tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so

I, for one, will be surprised ... in fact put me down for "very surprised".

[SkyPuncher]

I test drove a Tesla last fall and was deeply unimpressed with it.

It did a few things better than my Ford and Hyundai vehicles, but it was wildly unpredictable when it’d just decide to stop working. That’s a big problem for me.