[jarsin]

I agree with you that it probably would not have stopped it, but Steve Wynn at the time was convinced his staff would have discovered him.

He claims they implemented policies in 2015 to enter and inspect all rooms after more than 12 hours of DnD. In other interviews he admits they "profile" everyone that enters their hotel.

https://nypost.com/2017/10/08/vegas-shooting-wouldnt-have-ha...

[beefnugs]

Its all about the security theatre.

If they really have "more cameras than anywhere else" and if that even mattered, then its already covered.

It would be orders of magnitude cheaper to put cameras in every single room, with a big sign saying this camera turns on every 4 hours with a big red light, and then if you cover it up a physical presence will occur.

Instead they go with: SHOW ME ALL YOUR USB DRIVES. Same shit as covid, if you make it normal for "officials" to touch and make copies of everything all the time everywhere, then there is no such thing as crime anymore yay

[michaelt]

If the objective is to check whether anyone's hiding an AR-15 in their hotel room, presumably you have to check under the bed and in the closet and in the bathroom, which a fixed camera couldn't do.

Also I think the average hotel guest is completely fine with maids entering during the day when the room's unoccupied, but would not appreciate a camera in the bedroom, with or without a big sign and a big red light.

[smsm42]

A rifle can be disassembled in relatively small components, and re-assembled in minutes. You'd have to do a pretty invasive and thorough search to detect it - and still, the criminal could just keep it in their car, which is not checked, and bring it in 10 minutes before the time, assemble it and do the deed.

[akira2501]

There are collapsible and even folding ARs. They wouldn't be impossible to get into a regular travel suitcase.

[smsm42]

You don't need anything special - most of them can be easily disassembled, with most components fitting a purse, not even suitcase. The barrel probably would be the biggest one - it has to be 16 inches long AFAIK or the law is going to have questions (of course if you're about to commit a crime anyway, it may be not that big of a deal, but most places won't sell you an illegal firearm). Still will fit a standard carryon suitcase, or most common backpacks.

[porkbeer]

Why single out a rifle? Handguns are cheaper, concealable, and used in most mass shootings already. Demonize the actor not the tool.

[ketzo]

“Why single out a rifle”? C’mon, man. The shooting being discussed in this thread would have been orders of magnitude less devastating with just a handgun, and you know it. Don’t make it a weird 2A thing.

The objective is not “make sure nobody in Vegas has a gun” the objective is “prevent a mass casualty event like the previous one”

Obviously the “tool” makes a difference, otherwise the tool wouldn’t have been used.

[smegger001]

sounds like someone needs to have USBKill amongst their drives for when these clowns try to check them.

[Marsymars]

> He claims they implemented policies in 2015 to enter and inspect all rooms after more than 12 hours of DnD.

Eh, I guess I'd trip flags there. I typically put up the DnD on checking in at a hotel and leave it up until I check out. It's not a principled stance or anything, I'm just never staying for an amount of time (i.e. more than a week) where I'd need housekeeping services so figure I can save the housekeeping staff some effort and save some water.

[kelnos]

Yeah, same here. I'm happy to save the housekeeping staff some time and effort for something I don't really need, and I just don't like people coming into the room while I'm gone. Including security-theater room inspectors.

[incompatible]

So, potential future shooters will be limited to the number of guns that they can bring in to the hotel in 24 hours (or however many hours they have between the last inspection and their "event".) I'm sure that will help a lot.

[jarsin]

I couldn't find the exact interview, but I distinctly remember Wynn saying they have devices that can detect guns in bags and on persons.

I found an interview where he just mentions "devices" amongst other extreme security measures.

- "Devices" at every entrance that the public can't see

- 40 Plain clothed, armed, former Marines trained specifically for guarding US embassy's at each entrance.

- Seal team and CIA agents that form private counter terrorism that have direct communication with FBI etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkpTRYhFN9c

[mapmeld]

Video is from 2016, so tough to say how much of that is or ever was implemented. The NYC subway is just now piloting metal detector type devices which are poles which detect "signatures" of common items and weapons. I have no idea how often these detect weapons or false positive on a laptop or lacrosse stick, and the press has not been interested in the science of it so far.

[devinegan]

He had 10 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo. Killed 60+ and wounded 400+. Yes this would be a fraction but still possible to cause a lot of harm in 24hr.