[carbine]

lung cancer in young people who are non smokers is going up though

[dv_dt]

I wonder of vaping falls in the category of non-smoking. It really should have it's own category now I suppose.

[carbine]

medically no, i believe vaping counts as smoking

[dv_dt]

If a patient is asked do they smoke, and they vape but don't smoke, I'm thinking that most will answer that they do not smoke.

Heres a thought: Data wise, lumping vaping with smoking is a favor to vaping manufacturers who resist stricter regulations. It lets them hide behind an argument that its safer while not showing what the actual risk is vs not doing it at all.