[ein0p]

Glyphosate is far less harmful than any herbicide that was in use before it. That’s why researchers have such a hard time linking it to diseases except in farmers who spray literal metric tons of the stuff. But glyphosate is a red herring - the real nasty shit that is harmful are not herbicides, but pesticides. And what was in use in 70s and 80s is nightmare fuel.

[paulnpace]

That "nasty shit" wasn't in my sheets and underwear and didn't coat the surface of the Earth. The issues related to claims can be equally attributed to the massive funding of even journals, themselves, plus a nearly unlimited budget to fight everything in courts and out-of-court settlements with gag orders - nearly every dirty trick a corporation can do has been done to protect the producers of glyphosate.

[JumpCrisscross]

> nearly every dirty trick a corporation can do has been done to protect the producers of glyphosate

Glyphosate is perfectly safe, we just don’t have a scientifically literate population. The nasty stuff in Roundup are the surfactants.

[paulnpace]

Something that has become clear to me over the years is that when we go one by one through all of the things that were not present in my youth, it is impossible that any of these things could be a cause of anything bad because the scientifically literate people tell me so.

Yet, here we are, with each generation following the Baby Boomers seeing higher mortality (and many other negative medical condition) rates than the previous generations. I guess it's just something else that we can't detect.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[JumpCrisscross]

> it's just something else that we can't detect

What? We’re fat, stressed, eating terribly and not able to afford our doctors enough.

FTFA: “Nearly half of newly diagnosed cancers in the U.S.—42 percent, according to ACS researchers—are avoidable with a combination of prevention measures, such as eating a healthy diet and maintaining a healthy body weight.”

It’s unfortunately more acceptable to let a family member ramble in the corner about glyphosphate than to tell them to get on a treadmill and/or take Ozempic. (Which may be the right answer. Perhaps the damage, physically and educationally, is already done. I don’t know.)

> with each generation following the Baby Boomers seeing higher mortality

Not true among the educated [1]. (An effect that persists even after adjusting for income.)

The entire decline you cite is among people who don’t have a college degree.

[1] https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/03/17/educated...

[paulnpace]

Your comment is written to basically say the lower classes are stupid and fat and they get what they deserve.