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by adam_arthur 670 days ago
OP has already cited sufficient stats to prove his point, and you're looping on reply for different sources.

Why don't you supply your own sources? You're making a claim just the same as the OP, without providing any evidence in your favor. A good faith responder would do the legwork to provide a researched counterpoint.

To anybody that has actually been paying attention to CPU evolution over the years, the process node has clearly been the main differentiator between CPU performance. Intel had the process advantage and thus the CPU advantage, and now they don't.

Architecture matters too, but does not result anywhere near an order of magnitude difference, conventionally.

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OP has been using outdated benchmarks not optimized for ARM to prove his point.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/7292282?baselin...

Look at GB instead. GB is highly correlated to SPEC.

M1 is significantly faster in ST and MT while using a lot less power.

And this AMD processor is not the one specified in the OP (Ryzen HX 370) and is not on the same process node as the m1, thus not valid to prove your counterpoint.

You are comparing a 7nm processor to a 5nm one, and yet the gap isn't even very large. Which was entirely the OPs point.

Does a 5nm AMD chip perform similarly to the 5nm Apple chip at the same wattage? (Again, performance does not increase linearly with wattage, as you're likely to cite something violating this logic in the next response)

You seem to not understand the point being discussed though, so no reason to discuss further

>You are comparing a 7nm processor to a 5nm one, and yet the gap isn't even very large. Which was entirely the OPs point.

The gap is huge. AMD's 7nm chip typically uses ~5x more power than the M1 and is still slower.

>Does a 5nm AMD chip perform similarly to the 5nm Apple chip at the same wattage? (Again, performance does not increase linearly with wattage, as you're likely to cite something violating this logic in the next response)

No it does not. Apple's chips are significantly more efficient.

>You seem to not understand the point being discussed though, so no reason to discuss further

What is your point?