[VyseofArcadia]

This is interesting, because the argument came from an angle I wasn't expecting. I was expecting the contemptful-of-anything-new "that's ridiculous this isn't a sport" argument that I've heard from the various older people in my life. Instead I got, "this is watering down a form of counter-culture expression".

Which is also wrong, but at least differently wrong. This seems like the usual counter-culture gatekeeping. "Hey! We carved out a unique art form, just for us on the ingroup, and you outgroupers don't get to enjoy it without going through some social rituals!" I understand the sentiment, but nothing about mainstream attention is keeping the b-people from continuing to do their own thing.