[shon]

> Everything sounds like it's just a bunch of hackers

It is! This is run by George Hotz, aka geohot, aka the kid who cracked the iPhone SIM lock at 17yo, released the 1-click jailbreak for iOS before he was 20, and then went ahead and cracked the PS3 shortly after and released Sony’s private key (used to sign all PS3 software) for all the world to see.

He’s a beast. Now he’s doing Tinygrad and Comma. You won’t be seeing Corpo-speak from this guy or his team lol.

Cool to see him doing well and doing it his own way.

[melvyn2]

How many of those accomplishments were truly his, I wonder ? https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/109561314682149814

[oldgradstudent]

The only thing the link contains is a bunch of people claiming that his achievements were built on other people's.

Yet not even a single a achievement is mentioned by name, nor any specific detail is given.

It's evidence for nothing.

[NobodyNada]

The next message in the thread gives specifics about the PS3 crack referenced in the parent:

> Disclaimer: I have personal experience with him when he took the PS3 ECDSA fail research I and the other fail0verflow folks presented at CCC, and a couple weeks later released the PS3 metldr keys obtained using our method, with zero credit or reference to us. Then Sony sued us all because they assumed we were working with him, even though we'd been careful not to actually release any crypto keys precisely to avoid giving the lawyers excuses to sue us.

> So yes, I was named as a defendant on a lawsuit with him, thanks to his antics. That wasn't a fun few months.

[ensignavenger]

So, it sounds like the individual is complaining that he didn't mention them, but also complaining about Sony sueing them, and somehow manages to blame him for Sonys actions? Like Sony gave them credit they didn't want, but they want to complain about not getting the credit they didn't want?

[jazzyjackson]

It's as if you gave an academic lecture on a casino's vulnerability to being robbed, and then someone actually went and robbed the casino. You can be mad at the asshole who robbed the casino for two reasons; A: he's put you in hot water that you would have avoided without the robbery; B: he took credit for discovering the vulnerability (or at least didn't correct people who assumed he must be a real hotshot at casino security design)

[ensignavenger]

Except that nobody robbed anyone.

[oldgradstudent]

Weird, I could swear that I haven't seen that message.

Thanks for the correction.

[georgehotz]

The worst part of this critique is that it's not even true, and marcan knows better. He clearly dislikes me so much that he is willing to lie.

The symmetric half of the metldr key was obtained with a novel exploit I found. Then the asymmetric half was derived from that with the fail0verflow method.

But who really still cares about any of this, it was 13 years ago.

[homarp]

except marcan is https://archive.org/details/console-hacking-2010

not just 'a bunch of people'

[lagniappe]

marcan is at least 2 people

[Kiro]

A great thread to show how Mastodon is no better than Twitter. Really obnoxious and toxic and not something I want to be near.

[loa_in_]

That's not platform specific, it's the humans

[phowat]

Exactly! And I would expect hacker news of all places to understand that.

[jsmith12673]

Didn't geohot leave Comma like ~2 years ago

[zeroq]

He left Coma for tinycorp the same way Elon left SpaceX for Twitter.

[Rebelgecko]

Didn't Geohot also leave for twitter?

[danpalmer]

He was only at Twitter for a few weeks, maybe a few months before quitting because it turns out things are A Bit More Complicated Than That TM. This is one of the reasons why I would feel weird about entrusting my life to Comma.ai. I'm not that keen on Move Fast and Break Things when the things are my bones.

[threeseed]

He famously criticised the engineers there, joined, delivered basically nothing and then left.

[theolivenbaum]

You forgot to mention how he also single-handed solved search at Twitter /s