[MSFT_Edging]

> And most corp trips are to black hat, not def con.

not true in the vulnerability research space.

Actual engineers are sent to defcon because blackhat talks are advertisements, not educational presentations.

[wkat4242]

Oh that's good to hear.

I worked in a "blue team" and we would only get travel approvals for black hat. Even though I've never been as I didn't want to and I was hesitant to visit the US. Black Hat doesn't interest me precisely for the reason you mentioned. I don't want sales pitches, I want unrestricted flow of technical information without marketing motives.