[qwerty456127]

How would you use WiFi on Haiku if it were there? I thought people mostly use Haiku inside VMs like VirtualBox so network connection goes through an emulated fiber.

I dream of Haiku being ported to Raspberry Pi and I even was sadly surprised it isn't - to me the primary value of Raspberry Pi seems it being an uniform standard hardware platform, this sounds like a great enabler for alternative OSes as lack of need to support all sorts of different hardware makes the thing a lot easier.

[llm_trw]

The raspberry pie is a very odd computer which is hard to develop for. There are much better targets that are both simpler to develop for, cheaper, and easily available.

[rcarmo]

And we never really got any of them working, so I would contest that. Many years ago, I asked about Pi 2 support on the Haiku forums and there was a lot of ill will towards Broadcom closed binaries. I pointed at the Plan9 port and a couple more examples and nothing happened.

I tried the same thing several times with the Pi 3 and the Pi 4, and someone more vocally pointed towards RISC-V. Some four years later, there is a somewhat working RISC-V port, but in the meantime there is still no working ARM port of any real use.

On the whole, I was not overly impressed with the Haiku OS community where it regards exploring widely popular platforms that, despite having some challenges, would provide them with a larger audience. It's their call, but as an original BeOS user (and who can actually spot the Be Book from my couch as I'm typing this) and someone who's spent the past two years delving into the Rockchip ecosystem, I'm quite saddened by the way things went. It's not as if they lacked other ARM options, they just a) didn't have the resources and b) were perhaps a tad too opinionated.

[waddlesplash]

The RISC-V port was done almost entirely by one developer who took an interest in it. It wasn't as though the project got together and decided to prioritize RISC-V over ARM; it was just that someone did a port, and then it got (mostly) upstreamed. Nobody has taken an equivalent interest in ARM, in large part because, well, the developers are all running x86 machines as you might expect, so that's what Haiku gets developed on. If someone comes along (or one of the existing developers takes interest) in working on the ARM port more, we will hardly reject the patches!

[chrsw]

Opinions aside, they just don't have the resources for ports. That's the shame: that this project isn't more popular. Linux doesn't have this problem anywhere close to the way Haiku does.

[coolcoder613]

Quite a lot of people use Haiku bare metal, and wifi support absolutely is present.

[hodapp]

Are you one of them? I am curious what the experience is like trying to use it as anything like a daily system.

[coolcoder613]

I am, although I do not use it as a daily driver, I have bare metal installs on two different computers. In my experience, it is very snappy, and always fast, except for some browsers, and wifi support for my specific wifi cards is there, and works fine, although not perfectly. In regard to using it as a daily system, browser-wise, especially since Firefox has been ported, it works well enough. Webmail can be used fairly easily, but most of the email clients available only support regular pop/imap authentication, and not oauth. But then, whether you can daily drive it depends on your specific use cases and hardware.

[10729287]

I would have loved to use it as my daily laptop one year ago but it lacked a password at login. Is it still the case ?

[coolcoder613]

Yes, it is still single-user. Have you considered a BIOS or bootloader password?

[10729287]

I didn't, thinking it would be too weak but you're probably right. Will give it a try today for my last day off for summer !

[smallstepforman]

Haiku in 3 x64 boxes, native with wifi

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ0Ijc5n6Y4