[jeswin]

Even with the M3 the difference is marginal in multi-threaded benchmarks, from the Cinebench link [1] someone posted earlier on the thread.

    Apple M3 Pro 11-Core - 394 Points per Watt
    AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 - 354 Points per Watt
    Apple M3 Max 16-Core - 306 Points per Watt

And the Ryzen in on TSMC 4nm while the M3 is on 3nm. As parent is saying, a lot of the Apple Silicon hype was due to the massive upgrade it was over the Intel CPUs Apple was using previously.

[1]: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Zen-5-Strix-Point-CPU-anal...

[dagmx]

Their efficiency tests use Cinebench R23 (as called out explicitly).

R23 is not optimized for Apple silicon but is for x86. The R24 numbers are actually what you need for a fair comparison, otherwise you put the Arm numbers at a significant handicap.

[merb]

That the max should be worse than the m3 pro is a little bit shady.