[rcxdude]

I was thinking it may have been something like that. But it's still shitty to a) wait until the project is complete to tell them they're not getting paid, and b) erase credit (I don't see any good justification for this. It's literally the reason they were getting a discount in the first place, and they went to quite some effort to do it)

[Aurornis]

They didn’t wait until the project was complete. They issued a stop work order due to being over budget and also some “bad faith” charges they noticed. DEFCON then sent their own team to handle the production run.

Credit was not erased from the PCB nor the software, which were the parts Entropic was contracted to do. They declined to include entropic on the plastics, which is understandable given that Entropic didn’t do the plastics. It also likely saved machining costs on the mold for a project that was already over budget.

The original accusations appear to be a little exaggerated.

[rcxdude]

They also don't credit them in the con booklet either (but did credit Rpi). And the credit in the software is what got the firmware author kicked out, so it very much feels like defcon went out of their way to avoid crediting them for some reason.

And issuing a stop work order doesn't mean you can just not pay for the work done so far. It means you're not paying for any further work.

[trickstra]

> They didn’t wait until the project was complete

These two statements cannot be both true at the same time 🠉 🠋

> Once a month, we billed for our work and submitted an updated estimated per badge final cost - committing as costs built to discount our work as necessary in order to hit DEFCON’s per unit cost targets.

https://www.entropicengineering.com/defcon-32-statement