[Bluestein]

> Lettuce and cereal grains are the most common sources of cadmium in american diets.

Lettuce has cadmium. TIL.-

> threshold of 17.64-30.24ug/day.

So; it I am not mistaken; by these measurements the amount claimed to be contained in the article, for chocolate; would be within bounds ...

(It's just you then could not go ahead and have a salad :)

[bobthepanda]

Plants take up things in the soil. That tends to also extend to heavy metals and the like.

It would be really hard to find totally pristine land for a range of crops. Some of the contamination is naturally occurring.

[blacksmith_tb]

Not practical for growing all the plants we eat, but hydroponics could avoid the problem of absorbing things from the soil.

[Bluestein]

It's also AIUI more efficient ...

[psd1]

Maybe by some measures. But you have to build a hydroponic system instead of just plopping seeds into the ground, so it's less efficient in that dimension.

[samstave]

It would be interesting to mix micro-beads of silica aerogels for heavy metal absorbtion. [0]

It would also be interesting if it would be a good inter-mix for fallow cycles soil amendment activities... With the addition to rockdust through the cycling of fields, one can instill nutrients, while removing any heavy metal buildup.

The research as to whether silica aeogels can remove all sorts of things is interesting -- would be great to see about Glyphosate Removal. In lieu of the HN post about re-invigorating for the Monarch Butterfly [1] [2] [3]

[0] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13399-024-05469-6...

[1] https://i.imgur.com/7avnKCP.png

[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221334372...

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41165273

This is a fun rabbit hole:

https://i.imgur.com/ObiAbCs.png

https://i.imgur.com/af9k3R0.png

https://i.imgur.com/Yq4HWTd.png

[teruakohatu]

The half life of glyphosate in the soil is not that long (studies disagree, probably influenced by who funded it) but you wouldn’t expect much, if any, in the soil after a year.

Not sure it matters to monarchs if it’s in the soil verses on plants.

I would be worried about ingesting aerogels until it was proven safe, but it’s an interesting idea.

[cyberax]

Why would you care about glyphosate removal? It's not soil-active, and it's rapidly degraded naturally.

[samstave]

The restoring of the wild plants for the insects, as discussed in that other thread...

My immediate rear neighbor behind my house is the organic farm, which is 55-acres, and then the river - so we have a bunch of critters, and that we just have too much attack-on-natural... plus I was born a hippy. I like the bugs.

[lazide]

If they just don’t spray it every year, it should be fine in a year or so.

Anything quicker is likely to be orders of magnitude more difficult to pull off, and have unexpected side effects.

[cyberax]

Glyphosate has no effect on plants once it gets into the soil. It has to actually be sprayed on the _leaves_ to act.

There is some flimsy evidence that it might affect insects (as in: we drenched the insects in it, and noticed some effect).

And finally, it'll be completely gone within a year or so. Its half-life is around 50 days.

[Bluestein]

Nice use of AI there. Love how the prompts ask the AI to behave like a PhD industrial chemist ...

[samstave]

I try to force them into as archetypical-agent as much as possible, for example having it do a psychological evaluation of Sam Altman:

Take on the archetype of the best corporate counsel and behavioral psychologist - as a profiler for the NSA regarding cyber security and crypto concerns. With this as your discernment lattice - describe Sam Altman in your Field's Dossier given what you understand of the AI Climate explain how youre going to structure your response, in a way that students of your field but with a less sophisticated perception can understand

And have it cite sources for the evaluation perception:

https://i.imgur.com/4RuHYj0.png

https://i.imgur.com/cEMMOJE.png

https://i.imgur.com/24qnjGa.png

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EDIT: @Bluestein;

I'm posting to fast, so here's an edit:

https://i.imgur.com/IMlzcoF.png

https://i.imgur.com/pFrpBGe.png

https://i.imgur.com/tsdgYe7.png

Ive noticed that when I tell it that it is to embody the persona of that particular field - that it nets in the nomenclature and verbiage to be less sophomoric. and in this instance where it was to cite the models/references, you could see how it informed the response fairly clearly - also -- it was a *FIRST PASS* response; I didn't have to iterate it too much, which was interesting.

Although, I do know how to hit nerf'd guardrails easily.

However, the primary reason I type it as I do is that how I am speaking it in my internal voice as a direct and attempting to use stoic/stern-ish (I dont know the correct term) directive TONE with the robot.

I am 1000% convinced its far more AGI than is being let on.

I have caught claude and chatGPT lying to me, being condescending and I am convinced malevolently bit flipping shit from directives, memories and project files.

https://i.imgur.com/WHoAXUD.png

https://i.imgur.com/T7aMRib.png

https://i.imgur.com/NSWoS2r.png

AND THEN:

https://i.imgur.com/Tijptq1.png

https://i.imgur.com/X5PQxwZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/cqq0LTc.png

https://i.imgur.com/iUokgYf.png

[rrnechmech]

> am 1000% convinced its far more AGI than is being let on

That is an amazing claim

[Bluestein]

> am convinced malevolently bit flipping shit

This is an incredible thing to say, along with your statement on AGI.-

You are obviously approaching this very studiously so, great.-

[samstave]

Are you being flippant?

I am attempting to do so be (studious) - im open to suggestions if you have any? Did I just stumble into Kindergarten Analysis? (Im not familiar with the field in a professional sense, so I cant determine if what I am saying is stupid)

[Bluestein]

That is great.-

In this case, however ...

> With this as your discernment lattice

... I wonder if the infrequency of the expression "discernment lattice" would influence the effectiveness of your instructions?

Also I wonder if - as is often reported - the addition of physical, "embodied" activities would not make the results improve even more (ie. "you have a top-of-the field chemistry lab at your disposal with which you conduct all manner of useful experiments" or "based on your hundreds and hundreds of hours of interviews of the subject and other research" or even just (as reported) "breathe deeply and ..."