[metaltyphoon]

Are you assuming the workloads have to use K8s APIs? Where is this coming from? If that’s not the case can you actually explain with a concrete example?

[ttymck]

Any cluster extension. Helm is a good example.

https://helm.sh/docs/topics/version_skew/

Istio: https://istio.io/latest/docs/releases/supported-releases/#su...

Literally every kubernetes manifest that hits the server uses a k8s api:

    apiVersion: apps/v1

[Too]

Man, you don't need to use service mesh just because you use k8s. Istio is a very advanced component that 99% of users don't need.

So if you are going to compare with a managed solution, compare with something equivalent. Take a bare managed cluster and add a single Deployment to it, it will be no more complex than ECS, while giving you much better developer ergonomics.

[ttymck]

99% of users don't need kubernetes. Just deploy to heroku, and you'll have a much better developer experience.

[5Qn8mNbc2FNCiVV]

My wallet says otherwise

[epgui]

You mean operators?

(genuine tone, not rhetorical)

[ttymck]

Sure, an operator is likely to use a wide array of APIs.

But, to reiterate, everything uses APIs. The *betavX APIs are of course likely to be deprecated and replaced with stable APIs after a few versions.