[tomalaci]

Agreed. The amount of people trying to tell that dying is the right way of life is baffling. Vast majority of natural deaths arent graceful, they often are quite painful and ugly. If we develop means to at least extend the average -healthy- lifespan that would be a great achievement by itself.

[scubbo]

> The amount of people trying to tell that dying is the right way of life is baffling. Vast majority of natural deaths arent graceful, they often are quite painful and ugly

Both statements are true, but they are not necessarily causally related. _Even if_ all natural deaths were graceful, painless, and beautiful, it would still be a horrific senseless tragedy that "lives have to end"

[tavavex]

Somehow, people in real life are pretty capable of recognizing why arguments based around what others think is "natural" are completely useless - yet this is ignored completely in discussions of prolonging people's lives. Suddenly, the natural is all that matters. And here, natural means "precisely the current status quo" - no one's eager to return to the life expectancy of the past.