[biorach]

> I think we should reconsider the "hands off" attitude that (with a few exceptions) has prevailed since the end of the Cold War. Political deference, while culturally sensitive and insisted upon by some US-weary groups, has not turned out so great.

The USA has a terrible track record when in comes to direct participation in the affairs of other countries.

[worstspotgain]

Name a better track record, tovarich.

Besides, the participation is in the context of that of other countries, especially Russia. It's one thing to argue that we shouldn't pull bathers out of the lake. It's another to argue that we shouldn't pull drowners out of the rapids.

[nicoburns]

China? That seems to concentrate on building infrastructure in countries rather than toppling their governments...

[worstspotgain]

Sure, but it's a bit of an unfair comparison in that China is coming to the (trans-regional) scene late, so they're kinda free riding on the dirty work that came before. Plus their support of Russia is bad enough to offset whatever good they might be doing. Not to mention North Korea.

Either way, more "infrastructure diplomacy" is not far from what I'm advocating for. A nudge here, a free trade agreement there, and all of Central America could look like Mexico within a decade.

[red-iron-pine]

BRI is certainly not a home run, and is basically playing the same game as the World Bank or other development initiatives, but without global oversight. It's track record is decidedly mixed, and usually favors Chinese interests.

Confessions of an Economic Hitman -- but this time using Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

> The truth seems to lie somewhere between these last two reasons. In recent years, there have been an increasing number of reports from BRI partner countries about construction flaws in major infrastructure projects, project cancelations initiated by BRI partner countries due to concerns over corruption and debt, project cancelations initiated by Chinese companies due to financial problems, and projects that have led to nowhere (in some cases, literally – such as a BRI-funded railway that ends in the middle of a field in Kenya).

https://www.cfr.org/blog/rise-and-fall-bri

[nicoburns]

That's all true, but the USA sets a very low bar. Being better is not hard at all.

[dredmorbius]

Taiwan has entered the chat.

[stickfigure]

Also, in 1951: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Tibet_by_the_Peo...