[danpalmer]

I used to be a die-hard Firefox user, but over the last 15 years software quality has improved, expectations have been raised, and I haven't felt that Firefox has kept up. It still feels like it's a re-skinned 2005 era piece of software. Placing it next to Safari, Chrome, or more recent competitors like Arc, it feels dated.

There are technical reasons for this, there are process/political/human reasons why it has stayed this way, and for many people it's not a big enough issue to switch, or other things take priority, but for me it just comes down to jankiness. Alternative browsers all have their own issues, none are perfect, but most feel less janky at their core.

[thefz]

> Placing it next to Safari, Chrome, or more recent competitors like Arc, it feels dated.

Performance wise?

Appearance wise?

I use it exactly for the reason you state: I do not need 65536 features in a browser, not it makes any sense for it to use 1GB of my memory per tab.

[hintymad]

I don't know if it's just my bias, somehow I feel that the response time of Firefox is longer than that of Chrome. Or maybe it's due to my lingering discomfort about a Netscape-era bug: after running Netscape for a while, Netscape may stop responding or crash. If it crashed, I would not be able to relaunch it unless I manually killed a hanging Netscape process. Netscape never fixed the bug and I ran into the same bug a few times after switching to Firefox, albeit a lot less frequently. I then switched to Chrome and never looked back.

[Fire-Dragon-DoL]

Agree. I switched two days ago because the whole manifest v3. Unfortunately there is only Brave claiming to keep supporting manifest v3 and I'm not really believing that, once the code starts to diverge.

I will say that installing Firefox extensions makes me deeply uncomfortable. Everything requires access to everything.

My hope is an uodate to manifedt v3 that improves things so we can go back to chromium based browsers (not necessary chrome)

[pennybanks]

theres no point in having sentimental attachment to a browser. back then it was just dominated by a few, its the only reason you used it.

you couldnt care less to switch cause were lazy. very funny thing computer people do is have such brand loyalty over a browser.

and we turn around and laugh at coke people, ford people, xbox, how silly is it when you hear people arguing about xbox or ps. this is no doubt even sillier

and as a bonus the only reason we say oh firefox has gone downhill but lol ill never use chrome and let them take my freedom and joy never ever... this is again just brand loyalty lol.... if you dont like firefox just switch, if you dont like that switch, if you dont like any browers... well you just have to choose and live with one then dont you. trust me google has all your info

so does apple depending on your phone. and trust that your phone will be your id, wallet, everything very soon. ask asia, we are always lagging in tech, it will happen (ofc this isnt directed at you. im just talking sht outloud)