[aidenn0]

I mean you're free to fork and continue developing X11; right now there is nobody with both the capability and the desire to do so.

I'd wager that once I get hardware made in 2024, Wayland may work well for me (though in its defense it does work fine on my one machine with an Intel integraded GPU), but for now none of my (very old) discrete GPUs work reliably with Wayland, with 2 GPUs and 3 drivers (nvidia vs nouveau for my old GeForce and "radeon" (not amdgpu) for my old AMD card) causing 3 symptoms:

1. Crashes immediately on login

2. Black Screen

3. Kind-of sort-of works, but sometimes the screen just freezes for no reason and sometimes switching VTs fixes it sometimes not.

[kovac]

> I mean you're free to fork and continue developing X11; right now there is nobody with both the capability and the desire to do so.

OpenBSD Xenocara

[aidenn0]

Last I heard, Xenocara was downstream of X11 rather than being a hard fork?

[erik_seaberg]

The era of a single machine is over. We need remote rendering for services on datacenter fleets without GPUs, so X11 is more often replaced by Javascript for a browser (with support for a user's local GPU) than by Wayland.