[jsnell]

Dude, given you don't have any evidence to the contrary, the correct response here is "wow, I hadn't heard of that, please tell me more", rather than to assume that if you haven't heard of something, it must be false.

I don't know why there was no reporting of this, but it is what Gabriel Wineberg testified to under oath. See the trial transcripts, 2023-09-21, 1:36pm[0].

> Q. And since this agreement was signed in 2014, DuckDuckGo has been one of the built in options that a user can select as their search engine in Safari, right?

> A. Yes.

> Q. DuckDuckGo agreed, through this service integration agreement, to pay Apple a share of the revenue that DuckDuckGo receives from certain search traffic originating from Safari, right?

> A. Yes.

You see how that is DDG paying for being in the list of alternatives, right? And that it was revealed in this case?

[0] https://thecapitolforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023....

[crazygringo]

Thanks for that, that's very interesting. And indeed, has had no reporting whatsoever as far as I can tell.

Do you know if Microsoft, Yahoo, and Ecosia also pay for placement? Since those are the other options Safari provides?

You're right, I shouldn't have said it was false -- I thought I'd followed this subject very closely, and this is definitely not common knowledge at all. I stand corrected, thanks.

[jsnell]

I haven't seen any details on what arrangements the other search engines have, this only came up during the DDG testimony.