[KronisLV]

> At the same time its popularity makes it obvious that competition basically will not exist in the foreseeable future.

That'd be a bummer.

To me, Docker Swarm feels like the logical next step after single node Docker Compose deployments - supports networking and multiple nodes, while still using the simple Compose syntax. Sure, it's not as all encompassing as Kubernetes, but it feels like sometimes the latter isn't worth its complexity (if you want to self-host everything), outside of options like K3s.

I'd even say that something like Hashicorp Nomad is pretty nice if you don't have a problem with HCL. Plus, it supports not just containers, which is probably a boon to many: https://developer.hashicorp.com/nomad/docs/drivers

[thomster]

Whatever happened to swarm? I tried it maybe once, and that's that. Can't remember the last time I've seen docker swarm in a job ad also? Pretty much everything revolves with kubernetes or some combination with nomad.

[vbezhenar]

It is supported and probably works, but everyone just uses Kubernetes. If you're big, you want to use managed proven solution. If you're small, you expect to get big one day, and you want to use future-proof technologies to avoid unnecessary migrations. I think that's the way it works.

Hashicorp was bought by IBM, so I don't have high hopes for Nomad, either... IBM is a graveyard of good technologies.

[thomster]

oh man, just read it, too bad.....

[KronisLV]

I still use Docker Swarm and have seen it a few times, but yes, it’s definitely not common, which is a shame, because it also works pretty well with Portainer. Literally one of the most painless solutions run self-host and administer in my experience, at least for smaller scales.

[thomster]

I know that Docker like the company recently made a comeback (they had some financial issues), but never used Portainer, but they look cool...they remind me of Rancher....do they have a free version?

[KronisLV]

Yes, I’m using the Portainer community version myself, it also works with K8s so can serve as a lightweight alternative to Rancher as well, except last I checked there was a little bit of weirdness around non standard ingress controllers like Traefik instead of Nginx.