[StopTheWorld]

> What about simple tribal violence?

Is there any evidence of any tribes whatsoever existing over 20,000 years ago? All the evidence points against it.

There was no tribal violence 47,000 years ago because there were no tribes!

[defrost]

    Take a guided tour with Clinton from Ngurrangga Tours as you travel through the Murujuga National Park.  With the highest concentration of rock art in the world, rediscover the petroglyphs (rock art) created by the Yaburrara (Northern Ngarluma) people. The rock art has been dated back to before the ice age ended and is approx. over 40,000 years old and there is up to 1 million rock art images scattered across the entire Burrup Peninsula and Dampier Archipelago.

    As you venture down the creek at Deep Gorge, surrounded by huge granite boulders and Currajong trees, marvel at the petroglyphs etched into the rocks, and gain an appreciation of the Jaburara Tribe’s self sufficient lifestyle. Shell middens provide evidence of their seafood diets; the granite boulders would have offered shelter from the harsh weather conditions; and the creek, now mostly dry, would have been their only water supply.

~ https://therangeskarratha.com.au/explore/rock-art

And all the other aboriginal sites across Australia that are older than 20,000 years.

And the sites tracking back toward Africa that line the human expansion outwards.

What kind of world do you live in that has denied you access to evidence of early human existence?

[StopTheWorld]

> What kind of world do you live in that has denied you access to evidence of early human existence?

I didn't say humans didn't exist 20,000 years ago, I said there was no tribal violence. There's no evidence the Jaburara were organized as a tribe 40,000 years ago, although later on that may have happened.

[linearrust]

> Is there any evidence of any tribes whatsoever existing over 20,000 years ago?

Hunter gatherer tribes.

> There was no tribal violence 47,000 years ago because there were no tribes!

Unless you are arguing semantics, yes there were. Tribes and tribal violence.

[StopTheWorld]

> Hunter gatherer tribes

Hunter gatherer bands. There's no evidence of any tribes 20,000 years ago.

> Unless you are arguing semantics, yes there were. Tribes and tribal violence.

There is no evidence of any tribes existing 47,000 years ago. Insofar as tribes, and tribal violence, the OP mentioned them, which is wrong in that time frame, semantics or not.

[keepamovin]

Well this spawned a very lengthy multi day discussion! Hahaha! :)