[astrodust]

Who knew utterly destroying cities and replacing them with gated communities with no accommodations for children whatsoever, and borderline criminalizing any activity which isn't closely supervised would have knock-on effects.

[grahamjameson]

Risk is an important ingredient to a fulfilling life. As we continue to de-risk our lives, we lose our ability to evaluate risk and aggressively criminalize what we do not understand because we perceive it to be dangerous.

There are many types of activities which, while not criminalized yet, are “anti-social” in certain environments and can cost you your job.

[sleepingreset]

such as?

[grahamjameson]

Sex, sex-adjacent activities, extreme sports, van life / nomadic lifestyle are examples for which I know people who have either lost a job or experienced retaliation in a professional environment.

They are also all experiencing pressure to be criminalized and in certain places are already criminalized or otherwise regulated in a way that is harmful to individual liberty for a perceived gain in safety.

Lastly, I’ll add that cost of insurance, general ability to be insured, and the litigious nature of the USA apply a great deal of pressure to limit our ability to enrich our lives with risk.

[Semaphor]

Probably doesn't help, but we have similar issues here in Germany, yet those things you mentioned aren't.

[lnsru]

Buying a home and getting grounded was the key for my community integration. It is very clear who are tenants and who are the owners. The owners came with cookies and Glühwein to remove together snow from our street. Tenants didn’t show up. They know and we know that they will be gone sooner or later. So why waste time with strangers?

Edit: what I want to say is that mobility does not create community and stability. I see this in Germany often: school system does not create community either. A child must go through at least couple schools. So the friends get lost and strong friendship does not happen in the last school.

[llm_trw]

The majority of people lived in villages until 1920 in the US.

US birth rates started dropping off not a generation later.

[gmoot]

I mean, there was also a depression, a world war, and the increasing availability of birth control.

That factoid doesn't mean much on its own.

[WarOnPrivacy]

I would agree with the parent on this:

The transition away from communities where kids had autonomy, regualr access to adult-free spaces and also easy access to a wide variety of adults - the loss of all that massively increased parenting time and resources, from a few hours per week to 24/7 adulting.

Modern young parents now how to replace many diverse and experienced adults and impossibly simulate the autonomous and independent spaces where kids learned interpersonal and problem solving skills.

The closer we got to this, the less people wanted to have kids.

[llm_trw]

Birth rates did not fall below replacement until 1972.

Blaming the depression and word war is a bit of a stretch.

[weberer]

What percentage of the population do you think lives in a gated community? I know its common in some areas with particularly high amounts of break ins like South Africa and Brazil, but they're fairly rare in the USA.

[jimbokun]

OK, so not "gated community" but "cul-de-sac suburb". Argument still holds.

[SoftTalker]

They've also existed for far longer than the issues under discussion. The very wealthy have always tended to isolate amongst themselves.