[floam]

Microsoft and OpenAI aren’t even providing users with services with any actual confidential compute architecture. You actually need to trust them, but they don’t even claim to do what apple does, so you would need to hallucinate they are making promises they aren’t and believe THAT, and also hope they aren’t hacked or served with a warrant. It’s a different matter with what Apple is doing.

[talldayo]

A different matter without distinction. Apple is equally as unaccountable as OpenAI and Microsoft, their only difference is their usual marketing strategy that the industry never took seriously in the first place. If it came out that they were sending the NSA all of your "private" LLM requests (like what happened with push notifications[0]), Apple would just sheepishly admit it and continue advertising their same security-oriented shtick. They're shameless.

[0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/apple-admits-to-...