[tlhunter]

Waymo isn't going to revolutionize transportation until it costs less than an Uber or Lyft. Right now it's just a novell way for high salaried folks to get around or to show off when family is in town. In my experience it's been 25-50% costlier than the competition.

Sure, there are a lot of engineers to pay, but the same applies to Uber and Lyft.

[dudus]

Since Uber and Lyft make no money it's not a reasonable comparison, they are only cheap because they are financed by VC money. Uber and Lyft only exists today because there's an expectation that in a not so distant future they'll be able to replace all their pesky drivers that demand compensation and benefits for Waymos.

[bryanlarsen]

Uber is significantly profitable.

[xnx]

Possibly only because drivers don't realize the hidden cost of insurance, maintenance, accidents, fuel, etc. It's anyone's guess if there is a limitless supply of desperate drivers, or if they will wise up.

[gen3]

My recent experiences puts them at +$4-8 the cost, so similar price after tip. The biggest limiting factor for me is service range and +20% ride times