[p51-remorse]

Remember, this isn’t really a moral judgement. It’s a “we get way too many chargebacks on these categories to make it worth it” judgement.

Maybe we could see a thing where to purchase something in those categories, you have to call them and verify your identity, and that you’re buying this thing, and that you aren’t allowed to submit a chargeback.

But probably the volume isn’t worth it.

[bluefirebrand]

> Remember, this isn’t really a moral judgement. It’s a “we get way too many chargebacks on these categories to make it worth it” judgement

I think it can be both

In fact, I think if it weren't for the moral aspect, they wouldn't really get away with it. Imagine if they suddenly got a large problem of charge backs for groceries, gas or prescriptions. They might want to stop accepting payments for those things but the backlash would be astronomical against them

I've also never actually seen any concrete numbers about how many more chargebacks they get for adult content versus other categories. Is it possible they really don't get that many more chargebacks, but since it's a category they feel comfortable going after they decide not to accept those payments anymore?

[nullfield]

They probably won’t give us the concrete numbers.

They definitely don’t want to get sued if they facilitate what turns out to be not just distasteful to them but potentially illegal-see the PornHub lockout by all the CC companies after it was discovered that not all the things they hosted were legal/consenting/etc.

That said, “the optimal amount of fraud is non-zero”: https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/optimal-amount-of-fra...