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by Rinzler89 696 days ago
>not with the farce that exists today where "asylum" is used is a get-out-of-jail free card

The problem with the current asylum system is basically anyone can come in and say: "look, Russia, US, UK, France and coalition blew up my middle eastern country, so now countries like Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Austria who had nothing to do with it, need to give me asylum to me and my whole family, simple" which makes the system very easy to be gamed as the ECHR forces you to accept anyone who crosses your border and claims asylum with a well rehearsed sob story.

So, is there any surprise of the growth of right wind in Europe? The bigger issue is that voting right wing won't solve this since they legally can't, it's not under their control but the ECHR, so we just keep moving right while suffering the same immigration issues making it a double whammy.

The solution is to reform the ECHR membership and give sovereignty over asylum policies to the member country instead of an foreign org people can't vote for.

Especially now, when Russia and Belarus are weaponizing illegal migration by giving them visa free travel for money to Russia and Belarus so they can then storm the borders with Finland, Norway and Poland. Recently a Polish soldier working the border with Belarus got stabbed on duty by a migrant trying to force the border[1]. This is obviously unacceptable and should mean proper military response against illegal border crossings.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-soldier-dies-aft...

2 comments

> Asylum today is basically: "look, Russia, US, UK, France and coalition blew up my middle eastern country, so now countries like Denmark

No-no-no, Denmark took an active part in Iraq invasion and was also invaded Libya. Refugee crisis isn’t just about Syria.

Rintzler89 is still right though. Hardly any asylum seekers in eastern european countries because “nordic welfare” > “eastern european welfare”

Not an easy thing to fix

Which middle eastern conflict did Austria take part in?
They contributed Troops to the ISAF troops in afgahnistan for example.

Correction: wrote Usaf instead of ISAF

OEF != ISAF https://web.archive.org/web/20220120001326/http://www.nato.i...

OEF is an NATO Operation, Austrias policy is not to join any International primary Military Organization.

OK, good. So ... 3 soldiers

(about 20% of Tonga's contribution)

What?

Austria not Australia.

Both countries sent troops, australias was much bigger.
The right wing parties act as if we could just return people to Syria, Afghanistan and whereever just as we wand, no questions asked. That you need to cooperate with these countries to return people there...
Which we can't really return since that would mean cooperation with the Taliban. And even if we could cooperate, the countries then don't want them back or will demand various favors or bribes in return so then you're basically funding some terrorist regime to return 3 illegal migrants.