Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by pistolpeteDK 694 days ago
As a Dane living in Denmark, I don’t think it’s a big problem. We don’t show passports when entering Germany, only when returning to Denmark. And several times, if I forgot my passport, a driver’s license has been sufficient. Passport control is not really, if I have to be direct, aimed at the locals.

Unfortunately, Schengen has made it easy for organized crime. On the simpler end, for example, bicycle theft, cargo bike theft, and electric bike battery theft have exploded, and the police do not have the resources to solve it. When they occasionally caught the perpetrators and deported them, a couple of months could pass before they encountered the same people again. There is a lot of that kind of thing in Denmark, and unfortunately, it is often people from Eastern European countries who are behind it. I am not far-right, but it is a fact. The ironic thing is that border control doesn’t really solve anything. There is no control when you drive out of the country (possibly with stolen goods), and there is no round-the-clock passport control at all border crossings.

2 comments

> We don’t show passports when entering Germany

A FlixBus coming from Denmark is likely to be checked in Flensburg.

Ah okay. Didn’t know that. I’ve only crossed the border by plain or car
The busses get a lot more scrutiny.
It’s kind of a class problem, because they target the checks towards the cheapest means of traveling (i.e. most likely to carry illegal refugees). If you fly or take an expensive ferry there are practically never any checks.

Therefore people who can afford more expensive means of transportation don’t see the border checks as much.

>There is no control when you drive out of the country (possibly with stolen goods), and there is no round-the-clock passport control at all border crossings.

The modern EU economy can't function if you were to thoroughly check every single vehicle transiting a border. The costs to the economy would far outpace whatever some Eastern Europe Rroma thieves can steal from someone's back yard, nor do I wish to be checked every single time I cross a border just because I might have a stolen bike in my trunk. Imagine how US's economy would be if they had border checks between states.

Also, EU border checks when they are in place, are mostly restricted to the major roads, but small country roads at borders have no checks, so the truly bad people wishing to cause harm have so many ways of crossing the porous EU border undetected, while the innocent Average Joe has to be stuck in border checks for hours.

So the hole EU border checks thing is just a security theater anyway, causing economic harm and frustration just to look tough for the right wing voters but brining no actual security benefit, except for catching the really really dumb criminals.

Why are you implying the thiefs are Roma? From what I've read and found out from local incidents it's normal people from Romania, Poland, Bulgaria and so on
Because the ethnicity of those from Romania, Poland, Bulgaria is usually Roma/Sinti, even though it's usually not politically correct to say it. Just ask people from Eastern Europe.
No, those usually just live in their camps and go begging, but they sure as hell don't drive for 1½ days to Austria to rob bike stores, as opposed to regular Polish/Bulgarian/Romanians. These groups are sometimes picked up, and just because racism against Roma and Sinti (who are actually stationary most of their lives) is still socially acceptable doesn't change that
Here's a source for one instance in German, turns out it was Polish and Czech gangs of thieves.

https://ooe.orf.at/stories/3185677/