[KennyBlanken]

People seem to forget that the research that turned into Google was initially funded by the NSA and CIA:

https://qz.com/1145669/googles-true-origin-partly-lies-in-ci...

Cars now come with Google services / Android baked into the damn infotainment system, with no possible way to pull it out. What could possibly go wrong with an advertising company seeing everywhere you go, and everyone who rides in your car?

[b112]

This is true, but so far there are ways to disable much of this.

For example on a Ford, you can literally pull the fuse for the GSM modem. On a GM, you can pull the antenna from OnStar, and put a resister there in replacement... thus rendering it unable to communicate to home base.

This doesn't solve everything, but it at least stops the immediate phone home.

[kjkjadksj]

You can also buy cars that don’t need an immediate debugging

[b112]

It seems such brands are vanishingly small.

Buying used/old doesn't work here, at least not for long. Lots of salt on the roads, cars older than 8 to 10 years are rust covered, and it doesn't help components either.

Not to mention, if everyone bought used, there'd be no used cars to buy.

[serial_dev]

Yeah... They are all connected to the "three letter agencies", in Google's case it was very early, but I believe nobody can stay popular and not have all of these agencies infiltrate then take control of them.

Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Alexa, they are a gold mine for agencies, but even news sites, movie studios, and YouTubers. This is why they've been after Tik Tok for so long, they know how useful that app / network is.