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This is the fundamental problem with a static point system.

Up/Down votes should be personal and entirely void from the process of agree/disagree. It should be about pushing individuals closer or farther away from your perspective.

I'd like to see something like Reddit that was more like a network. As you "downvote" something or someone you push yourself away from that network. As you upvote something/someone you push yourself closer to that network.

Then again, I also think thread titles should be editable via a wiki and people should be able to submit counterpoints and they should be given equal weight to the original post (not just a comment but right next to the original author's post).

[mistercow]

>I'd like to see something like Reddit that was more like a network. As you "downvote" something or someone you push yourself away from that network. As you upvote something/someone you push yourself closer to that network.

If I understand you correctly, you could still game that; it would just take more effort. Instead of selling accounts with high karma, people would sell accounts centered in large clusters of users.

Also, I'm not positive, but I think the system you're describing is computationally prohibitive.

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>computationally prohibitive

yup it'd be a nightmare :)

I'm not sure if you could even sell users with large clusters... as the only way to generate a large cluster would be to generate more fake users around that cluster. So you'd have a large cluster of fake users. That or make good content that people cluster around... but then again that isn't gaming the system, just putting content next to people that want it.

[mistercow]

>as the only way to generate a large cluster would be to generate more fake users around that cluster.

Oh no, people are very predictable, especially at the median. Getting a reddit account to a high karma score is trivially easy, and getting to the center of a dense cluster in relative networked karma system would be similarly easy.