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by shiroiushi 700 days ago
>Communism does not have businesses, worker owned or otherwise. It does not even have currency and money at all.

Huh? You seem to know absolutely nothing about how the Soviet Union worked. They certainly did have money and companies. (And don't give me that BS about the CCCP not being "true communists" -- No True Scotsman fallacy)
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ClumsyPilot 700 days ago
> You seem to know absolutely nothing about how the Soviet Union worked

I think it’s you who doesn’t. Notice USSR stands for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It was not a Union of Communist Republics. Have you stopped to think, why is that?

Leaders of USSR were communists, as in they believed in Communism. However, according to them, the country was socialist and they were working towards the goal of achieving Communism. That goal would be achieved eventually, when society or economy or technology was ready. But no official or leader of the Soviet Union would claim that they have already achieved communism.

So you can use USSR to claim that putting communist leaders in charge is a bad idea, but you cannot claim that USSR was an example of communism because not even people running it at the time claimed that it was.

And yes, the eventual goal was to get rid of the concept of money. You can read any of the soviet sci-fi, like Bull's Hour, and see how they imagined it would work.

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shiroiushi 698 days ago
Again, No True Scotsman.
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nayuki 700 days ago
Why would a communist society need money in the first place? Isn't everyone given some fixed ration of goods? Or that he can take what he needs?
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shiroiushi 700 days ago
A "true" communist society like you're talking about has never existed, outside of possibly Israeli kibbutzes and also tribal hunter-gatherer societies before civilization was invented.

In real communist societies like the Soviet Union (which are more accurately labeled "authoritarian socialism"), they need money to control allocation of goods, just like any other modern society. How exactly do you decide how many rolls of toilet paper to give to people? Some people need more than others, so either you have a giant government bureaucracy just to police how much toilet paper people use, how much of every possible type of food to eat, etc., or you just give people money and set prices for stuff, and let them figure it out themselves. These societies were centrally planned, but at some point it's simply impractical to plan everything.

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