[smitty1e]

> Switching to another provider would be non-trivial, and I don’t see the VM as a real benefit in this regard. The barrier to switching is still incredibly high.

This point is made in the context of VM bits, but that switching cost could (in theory, haven't done it myself) be mitigated using, e.g. Terraform.

The brace-for-shock barrier at the enterprise level is going to be exfiltrating all of that valuable data. Bezos is running a Hotel California for that data: "You can checkout any time you like, but you can never leave" (easily).

[tetha]

Heh. We're in the process of moving a service for a few of our larger customers over due to some variety of emergencies, let's keep it at that.

It took us 2-3 days of hustling to get the stuff running and production ready and providing the right answers. This is the "Terraform and Ansible-Stuff" stage of a real failover. In a full infrastructure failover, I'd expect it to take us 1-2 very long days to get 80% running and then up to a week to be fully back on track and another week of shaking out strange issues. And then a week or two of low-availability from the ops-team.

However, for 3 large customers using that product, cybersecurity and compliance said no. They said no about 5-6 weeks ago and project to have an answer somewhere within the next 1-2 months. Until then, the amount of workarounds and frustration growing around it is rather scary. I hope I can contain it to some places in which there is no permanent damage for the infrastructure.

Tech isn't necessarily the hardest thing in some spaces.