[bradyriddle]

> LLMs and the rest of AI today are still not good enough to do any useful work, so it's all going down the same path as VR/AR

As a former AR/VR dev, this is a wild take to me. Have you used cursor? Have you ever had to write copyright for a website? Have you ever tried to learn something new or ideate with chatgpt?

When I was working on immersive apps, I would only ever pick up my device to do dev work. Very rarely would I pick it up outside of that (admittedly, I'm not really a gamer). But I use these new generation of AI tools many times a day.

[surfingdino]

I have. I tried LLMs for creative writing, it was shit. I tried using them for translation, it went off the rails within the first page, then refused to continue. I tried using them to write code, I got an ethics lecture or a perfectly testable code that does not what I asked for. I got tired of trying different LLMs as it makes no sense to waste time and money on this shit. AI companies are the most incompetent IP thieves, they steal content and can't produce anything of value with it.

[bradyriddle]

I think my previous comment came off a little combative. I am genuinely curious about your experience.

I fall somewhere in the indie-hacker/entrepreneur/not quite solo-preneur category and these tools have have provided a lot of value to me. I am maybe 3x more productive with them. They are definitely not without their flaws.

If you haven't tried cursor out, I recommend giving it a try

[jazzyjackson]

Not OP

To me AI is like an Ouija board. It works if you believe it works, and if you doubt it it falls completely flat. However it's not magic, I think it's something self-fulfilling in the phrasing. If you approach it with suspicion and prompt it to 'see if it can', the model will auto-complete itself into failure. If you take a sunny, optimistic approach, the auto-complete grants your wish.

It's also just straight up non-deterministic like a roulette wheel, and some people get 100 jackpots in a row (this sucked me in at first, believing the world was about to change) and some people run out of luck so quickly they never got to feel the magic. On average its just OK and kind of annoying and not worth $20/month.

[xwolfi]

Yeah agreed, it s not garbage garbage it's just silly and useless, and all I can think is "meh". I really find it incredible they call those token generators "AI"