[jlos]

As far as I understand Douglas Hofstadter's Godel, Escher, Bach - self-referential recursive structures (strange loops) are the foundation of consciousness (among other interesting things). I've been watching to see if LLM's becoming self-referential actually improves them as opposed to degrades them.

[mensetmanusman]

The interesting thing about loops is that they can generate fields (think motion if current generating a magnetic field).

Consciousness is more like a field than like a particle (which are also fields), but we haven’t determined how conscious fields fit in physics models.