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by Night_Thastus 703 days ago
"Elevated operating voltage" my foot.

We've already seen examples of this happening on non-OC'd server-style motherboards that perfectly adhere to the intel spec. This isn't like ASUS going 'hur dur 20% more voltage' and frying chips. If that's all it was it would be obvious.

Lowering voltage may help mitigate the problem, but it sure as shit isn't the cause.

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It's worth noting that W680 boards are not a server board, they're a workstation board, and often times they're overclockable (or even overclocked by default). Wendell actually showed the other day that the ASUS W680 board was feeding 253W into a 35W (106W boost) 13700T CPU by default[1].

Supermicro and ASRock Rack do sell W680 as a server (because it took Intel a really long time to release C266), but while they're strictly to the spec, some boards are really not meant for K CPUs. For example, the Supermicro MBI-311A-1T2N is only certified for a non-TVB E/T CPUs, and trying to run the K CPU on these can result in the board plumbing 1.55V into the CPU during the single core load (where 1.4V would already be on the higher side)[2].

In this particular case, the "non-OC'd server-style motherboard" doesn't really mean anything (even more so in the context of this announcement).

[1]: https://x.com/tekwendell/status/1814329015773086069

[2]: https://x.com/Buildzoid1/status/1814520745810100666

They also admit a microcode algorithm produces incorrect requests for voltages, it doesn't sound like they're trying to shift the blame; ASUS doesn't write that microcode
Specifically I think the concerns are around idle voltage and overshoot at this point, which is indeed something configured by OEMs.

edit: BZ just put out a video talking about running Minecraft servers destroying CPUs reliably, topping out at 83C, normally in the 50s, running 3600 speeds. Which is a clear issue with low-thread loads.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yYfBxmBfq7k