[jjcm]

One of the mistakes I made as a young designer was pushing back against trends and fads. My opinion at the time was that trends that weren't thought out from a position of UX principles were an anti-pattern to follow. As I matured more as a designer, I now think nearly the opposite - not following trends is an anti-pattern, since that's what your users will be used to.

Pull down to refresh is a great example of this. Not visible or discoverable at all, but was all the hype when Tweetie first released it. On paper it's an anti-pattern, but now it's so ingrained as a trend and pattern that it became expected, and is now muscle memory for many users.

The same goes with flat buttons - I used to be quite opposed to them since there was no visual elevation off the page designating it as a button. Now if you create a button with a bevel, users will think it's an ad, not part of the page itself.

Copying leads to harmony in the wider ecosystem, and it creates a defined agreement on what things are are how they work. It's an important part of the user experience.

[lupire]

That just your own bad taste.

Pull to refresh is useful and optional.

Flat buttons save precious space on tiny mobile devices.

[jjcm]

> Flat buttons save precious space on tiny mobile devices.

You're probably mistaking a flat button for a link / undecorated button. Apple's HIG refers to these as plain buttons for iOS[1]. I'm referring to flat vs bevelled[2], which take up the same space.

[1] https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...

[2] https://image.non.io/428397dc-93ae-4158-8b71-323bd11182a0.we...

[hardwaresofton]

I can only hope this was a joke/light hearted but anyway

> That just your own bad taste.

Please be civil

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