[noahtallen]

Well, last point isn’t quite true. Alaska Airlines is primarily iOS. So, iPads scan your boarding pass and are used for printing luggage tags outside security, Flight attendants use iPhones on the planes, etc.

And they were of course mostly unaffected by the Cloudstrike outage.

Either way, I think it’s a strong point for Apple that antivirus is not required because the iOS security model protects against viruses pretty thoroughly. That’s just not the case for Windows most of the time. Also, do tech companies run antivirus on their linux-based containerized cloud workflows? Not really, the security model doesn’t require it. Points against windows server here

[jeroenhd]

CrowdStrike is deployed on Linux servers as well, so clearly companies like these do run EDR software on their Linux hosts.

Apple pretends they don't need antivirus the same way some Linux advocates will, but viruses exist on both platforms. Very few companies run their digital signage or internal application databases on macOS hosts, mostly because Apple stepped out of that market years ago.

Whenever Apple or Linux are deployed at the scale these CrowdStrike desktops are, you can assume similar software is deployed on any platform. This time it was a kernel crash, next time it could be MDM software locking all iPads out of all network access, or null routing all I/O requests in eBPF.

[throw0101d]

> Apple pretends they don't need antivirus the same way some Linux advocates will, but viruses exist on both platforms.

Sure. But when was the last time a company was in the news when they were hit with macOS-, iOS-, or Linux-based ransomware?

I'm in IT, but Windows was never my thing/niche. Generally I've viewed two problems with it:

1. when it becomes a monoculture where basically everything in the company runs on it

2. something about its architecture/designs appears (to me, at least) for very easy spreading of malware (does it have some weaker SSH-equivalent that allows easy remote control?)

Just ask Maersk about these two points:

* https://www.wired.com/story/notpetya-cyberattack-ukraine-rus...

[legitster]

This is incorrect: Alaska Airlines wasn't a Crowdstrike customer. They use SentinalOne, a competitor. They absolutely use Windows desktop environments across their infrastructure.