[tracker1]

I feel very similarly... I have YTM mostly because I don't like ads on Youtube and found out creators get more from YT subscribers than from the ads.

I have the UX of the player though... the android TV experience is even worse, it's nearly impossible to use effectively now.

I miss DJs, at least I miss good DJs... there are a few stations locally that I like what the DJs will mix and play, but there's sooo many commercials now. I'd happily pay $10/month for an ad-free DJ run experience. I mean, why the likes of XM, etc don't just have 50-100 DJs actually curate the music for the live experience.

[moritzwarhier]

Thinking about that, I was happy about Rinse.fm still existing and a couple of other stations still playing live sets – not that I like everything, but when a DJ hits the spot, it's really satisfying.

Live sets generally are an antidote to this kind of music fatigue for me.

Of course there are other remedies, e.g. timeless albums and live music, I also a deep love for Bach's keyboard music, and some of that proved to me how much context matters for enjoyment.

And ditto about Youtube, it's not a bad offer in itself but the music app really sucks, many parts of Google TV are mediocre, too. In the latter case, I appreciate their effort in that case though (gtv in general), and the p/v I get from that 40€ hdmi+usb stick is not too bad either since i use a cheap chromecast.

That's a thing I still like Google for, at least in my case Chromecast makes it possible to reuse a cheap ~10y old LED tv for purely internet tv, with a functional remote, etc.

It's not new, but Google's TV sticks are pretty decent imo