[Joel_Mckay]

"Evil Inside(tm)" software made sure many of the libraries and compilers had much slower performance on AMD chips for years.

We had to use intel cpu/gpu + CUDA gpu simply because of compatibility requirements (heavy media codecs and ML workloads.)

Lets be honest, AMD technically has had a better product for decades if you exclude the power consumption metric. ARM64 v8 is also good, if and only if you don't need advanced gpu features.

The Ryzen chips definitely are respectable in passmarks benchmark value stats rankings. =)

[smallstepforman]

The 3700x and 5700x are 65W parts specifically made for quiet/cool boxes (they’re also 8 core). I have both since I enjoy my sanity and dont care about 10% extra performance. They are the pick of the litter in my mind. Also have a laptop with 5850h. Same with their Navi chips, not blazing hot but good enough, and my boxes and nice and quiet.

[Joel_Mckay]

I think we've been in the "good-enough" computing age for awhile, and only the CUDA-gpu/codec-asic primarily feature in most desktop upgrade decisions.

Quiet machines are great, especially when you have to sit next to one for 9 hours a day. =3

[plasticchris]

I have a 3700x I keep around 1.05v and it is completely quiet (and p95 stable) under a massive air cooler which basically never spins up the fans.

[ffgjgf1]

> AMD technically has had a better product for decades if you exclude the power consumption metric

And single core performance.

And some other stuff which obviously didn’t matter during the period in question but suddenly became very important when AMD surpassed Intel in that regard…